Hampstead Abuse Allegations: Court Seeks Removal of Videos as ‘Campaigner’ Flees

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The local Hampstead authority has sought the removal of the exploitative videos that show a boy and a girl discussing so called “satanic ritual abuse.”

The siblings in the clips which were shared widely online with permission from the children’s mother, are in the midst of care proceedings, after being removed from her direct custody some months ago.

So far there is no evidence that the wild allegations made in the videos are true (such as a cult cooking babies in a fast food restaurant), but it’s apparent that child protective services believe some kind of isolated abuse may have taken place.

The local authority is currently going through the family courts to try and scrub the internet of the videos in order to dampen the online hysteria that surrounds the story and to protect the children’s identities. However this will most likely have the opposite effect on those who believe the allegations at face value.

UK law deems the publishing of intimate details of ongoing child abuse cases an offence. This includes publishing the names and details of victims and anyone who has been accused of abuse but not charged, as well as any associated testimony. This may be deemed contempt of court among other offences. The uploading and sharing of the videos in question may well be considered a crime.

Meanwhile Sabine McNeill, a campaigner for the mother’s side of the story claims she is fleeing the country. She manages a number of websites and social media accounts that campaign against the secretive nature of the family courts, often reporting intimate details about cases. In this case she revealed the children’s names, where they went to school, and the details of alleged abusers who have never been charged. She was also instrumental in sharing the shocking video clips.

“I booked a plane, packed my suitcase and left. I was told that Barnet, Camden and Met Police are mounting a prosecution against me,” writes McNeill on Change.org.

Teachers at a Hampstead primary school which was named as one of the locations for the satanic abuse were investigated at the time but police found no merit to the allegations. The school has since sent letters to parents explaining the situation.

While it would seem an isolated case of child abuse has indeed taken place, perhaps including the videos themselves, Hampstead most likely isn’t the site of a mass satanic, baby cooking cult.

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  • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

    You calling these children liars?!!?!! Already?!?! Shame on you!!!!!!!

    • YesTheyAre

      The children are liars if you believe the blog posts, they have since recanted what they said on video.

      Or do you actually believe that a tube station shoe shop is making shoes out of babies skin for a bunch of Satanists waiting in line at McDonalds for their baby cheese burger?

      Or they could go to Pizza Hut for a baby meat ball topping and Starbucks for a hot baby blood coffee as the children stated they are in on it too.

      Abuse is real and these children HAVE been abused in some way, but supporting lunatic stories harms the fight against organised abuse as it perpetuates the thought that organised abuse is a hoax.

      • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

        Its fact that the children have been abused as there is physical evidence, however even if you do not believe all the children say, to mock their disclosure is inappropriate and crass. I would not do that publicly and support the petition for the children to be returned to their mother.

        • YesTheyAre

          Who said there was physical evidence? You’ve just read that on the Internet and it could be complete tosh!

          Since you believe what you read on some random blog rant, then you’ll also believe that the mother and her boyfriend are denied access to the children, but the alleged abusing father has access. Doesn’t that strike you as being a little odd?

          Did the thought ever occur to you that the abusers are the ones making children say this bizarre stuff on video? So who made the video hmm?

          Figured it out yet?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            I admire your unfledging faith in the establishment. Hows that working out for you in the UK in 2015?
            You seem to have completely made up your mind. Im assuming you have watched all the videos? Tell me. Do you not think the children are very natural in their disclosure? Very repetitive and clear? Not at all scripted or staged. It would take a long long time to get children of that age to be so gifted at making stuff like this up do you not think?

          • YesTheyAre

            What “faith in the establishment”? I simply don’t take rambling blogs posts and videos showing the children being prompted and given leading questions at face value like you do.

            Come on, secret baby slaughtering rooms at McDonalds? You really believe that?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            I will not answer that as you refuse to answer my question. Heres another one, have you seen the intimate details given regarding the abusers. The tattoos on the adults and the children. The birthmarks on one of the abusers genitallia. Why would they include information that could easily be dismissed? The 20 children in the school have tattoos on them to prove they are a part of the cult. Pretty easy evidence to check out. Why provide such concrete information if telling lies? it would be a ridiculous thing to do. You could say to make it seem more real, however i doubt it.
            The police often try to return victims to abusers. Look up the hollie grieg case.

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            Also if there is nothing to hide lets have this out in open court instead of secret courts where a defendant has no rights.

          • YesTheyAre

            Well clearly there is stuff to hide, like the children’s identity and the details of the case. I wouldn’t like the details made public and open to the media if it was my children, would you want the national papers harassing you for a statement?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            The secret courts dont just keep things secret. They operate on a level where the defendant has no rights to know anything. The evidence against them, why they were found guilty of a crime and no right to appeal. Do you agree with this?

          • YesTheyArYesTheyAre

            That is not correct. A summary of the evidence is made available to the defendant.

            However I have no interest in the workings of them so am not informed enough to say one way or the other.

            The only stance I take is that the identities of minors and the details of the case should not be revealed to the public.

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            A summary? Do you believe that is adequate?
            You should be interested as there will be one in every town soon. They are hawling innocent members of the public through these courts for no reason. Children of parents in care homes who dispute and complain about their parents care. People being sectioned and put away for nothing. I suggest you read up on it then you may realise what your govt is capable of doing to its citizens.

          • YesTheyAre

            As I said, no interest.

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            Ignorance is bliss

          • YesTheyAre

            I could list any number of causes that you know nothing about. It isn’t for you to decide which cause I choose to take the time to research.

            I’ll respect your wish not to take interest in the causes that I think are important, I certainly wouldn’t call you ignorant for not having the same interests as I do, that would be, well, ignorant wouldn’t it. ;)

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            Quite right, and yes you could. :-)

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            he doesnt fear being dragged away by the system. hes in their employ

          • Jack Potts

            The thing is, they are not your children, & the mother of those children has apparently decided that it is in her kids’ best interest that the video is broadcast. Just like me (as a father) & probably yourself too maybe. We would all like to think that we, being the childrens parents, who would ultimately die to defend them, should have the final word on how to defend our kids. So as far as I’m concerned, whether we agree with the public identification of the kids or not, the video should stay ‘live’ if that is what the mother wishes. Until such time as she may be proven to have wronged her own children, we must accept that she may just well know, that this is the right thing to do. Furthermore, presumably her own kids are safe now, & she has done this to wake the world up and protect OTHER kids from being abused!!

          • YesTheyAre

            So the mother can decide the best interests of her children? Really? Even if she is a mental case right?

            So a deranged paranoid mother is the best person to decide if the details of an alleged abuse should be simply allowed to be posted online?

            You really think that the mother should be able to post online the details of the accused so that enraged Internet vigilantes can go after them, even though there is NO PROOF? These people lives should be destroyed on the say so of a deranged mother?

            This mother has allowed the identities of her children online and their faces and names will forever be associated with conspiracy sites and forever be on YouTube, you think that is the best thing for the CHILDREN?

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            the children are accusing their father. they want their ids known and his. they have been persuaded to speak out by their naive stepdad who promised them it was safe.
            im guessing ther will be quite a few unexplained deaths relating to ppl involved in this case. mark my words. stepdad, mum, kids.
            the guild has money andcpower.. typically its someone who has everything and lots of cash to splash who buys snuff porn. and there are evil networks that procure and produce it. it exists. ppl buy it. its an industry.

          • YesTheyAre

            It’s no surprise that you don’t want to answer the question as doing so would mean that you don’t believe the children. ;)

            There is NO evidence that there are the marks on the accused. There is NO evidence that there are any tattoos on children.

            As you say, pretty easy to check out and since this all happened months ago and the police and local authority were informed then, you’d think that they would have found tattoo covered children by now at the school and secret baby killing rooms in Mcdonalds, but they haven’t. So much for that “evidence” then huh?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            When i watch those children I believe them. Childrenshould be believed until proven otherwise or until new information comes to light. To discredit children after such disclosures is heartless and cruel. To dismiss it completely is even worse. Do you not understand the nature of a ring? That there will be cover ups and silence. I think you are very naiive and to dismiss everything the children say or at least evidence which is being reported as fact is irresponsible and damaging.

          • YesTheyAre

            What factual evidence? Children are saying it so it MUST be true?

            So if a child said you abused them, it is true?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            i didnt see the video where the children stated this. Do you have the link?
            If a child accused me i would expect due process yes

          • YesTheyAre

            Stated what?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            You said that the children stated that there was physical evidence in the videos. I thought the videos were filmed before the crimes were reported and before they were examined. Do you have the link to the video where the children say there is physical evidence of their injuries

          • YesTheyAre

            I did not state that the children stated that thee was physical evidence in the videos. YOU brought up the physical evidence.

            On the matter of your view that children should be believed until proven otherwise, I note that you missed my question, so here it is again.

            If a child said you abused them, it is true?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            No. I said there was factual physical evidence and you asked What factual evudence, children are saying it so it must be true? This is in ref to my saying it had been reported that there was physical evidence which you then stated i believe everything the children say. Well i dont think the children did say that, you see? So im basing it on what was reported just as you are. I wasnt referring to the videos.

            And of coUrse its not. Unless it is. But i would expect an investigation especially if a child had anal scarring

          • YesTheyAre

            I quote: “Children should be believed until proven otherwise or until new information comes to light.”

            So should they or not? Now you appear to be saying that if YOU were accused of being an abuser by a child the answer is “of course not”.

            Which is it? I am genuinely confused at your apparent contradiction now.

            If a child accuses you of abusing them, should that child be believed until proven otherwise? i.e Should you be guilty until proven innocent?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            Lol because your question was written in a certain way. If i am accused and i am innocent it doesnt make it true. However, that does not mean that a child should be ignored and there should be an investigation.
            If a child accuses me and im guilty of course its true, however due process should follow regardless of guilt or innocence to establish the facts. Thats the best we can hope for in society isnt it.
            This case was dropped

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            Its because im talking from my being accused. So doesnt make sense. But ultimately my point is if a child discloses something there hs to be an investigation which didnt happen in this case. Sorry for confusion

          • YesTheyAre

            Nobody suggested that the children should be ignored, but the point is that they should also not automatically be believed. That goes against one of the principle points of English law, innocent until proved guilty.

            Do you believe that people are innocent until proven guilty?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            If you report a crime initially your statement has to be believed or acknowledged then for it to be followed up and investigated. Children who disclose should be believed and then their stories followed up.
            These children and their mother went to the police and reported the crimes. They were taken serioysly as examinations were carried out which provided evidence, at which point the case was closed and the children removed.

            I believe in innocent until proven guilty. But i fear the process lets this down. Not all guilty are guilty and not all innocent are innocent. But its the best weve got. The best course for jystice is transparency. Nor secret courts and cover ups

          • YesTheyAre

            So why then on the basis of ZERO evidence are the people involved guilty?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            Please provide proof there is zero evidence. Do you have the medical reports? Your argument is as baseless as mine. All i want is an investigation

          • Keelan Balderson

            Having medical reports that suggest some form of sexual abuse might have taken place is not evidence that a mass satanic ring in Hampstead is somehow sourcing loads of babies to cook and dance on their skulls.

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            I didnt say it was. I said that in light of medical evidence the case should not have been closed.

          • YesTheyAre

            How do I provide proof of something that does not exist?

            Do YOU have the medical reports to back up your assertion that there is evidence of abuse? Or is it that something you read on a blog? Are you medically trained to know the difference between injury and abuse? I’m not.

            My argument isn’t “baseless”, it is based on the FACT that this was reported months ago, yet there hasn’t been any reports from HUNDREDS of concerned parents at the school, no massive police investigation in Hampstead, no tearing down of McDonalds to find baby slaughtering rooms. No arrests made, depsite your claim about easy to find evidence like tattoos on children. No court case.

            The shoe shop at the tube station is still there and in business, no doubt bewildered about why people are asking them about their range of baby skin shoes.

            There is not ONE shred of evidence to backup the claims made by the children in these video. Yet you, who believes in innocent until proven guilty believe it!

            Come on, can’t you see how ridiculous it is?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            Our arguments are baseless as no one here has all the facts. You are the only one pretending you do. I say there must be an investigation. I say that blogs mocking disclosures of children are unhelpful at this stage. Any right mjnded person with a voice ( where are the real journalists nowadays?) would be asking questions.

            Why is this being deslt with in a secret court? What is the evidence (if any) why if there is evidence, was the case closed? Where are the children now? Are they safe?

            But no. We get sarcasm

          • YesTheyAre

            It isn’t baseless, it is common sense. Were there any suggestion that the events depicted in these videos was true then Hampstead would have been ripped apart MONTHS ago by law enforcement.

            Can’t you at least agree with that simple point?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            If the events in the videos are true i would expect a complete cover up.

          • YesTheyAre

            …and there we have it. It’s all a conspiracy…I guess the hundreds of parents and their children are in on it too then?

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            Do you really believe the police investigate themselves. Even in mainstream media there are stories of social workers about to blab being murdered. Abusers in westmjnster. Rape in the palace. This is everyday news?! This is the mainstream syuff! What the hell do you think goes on that stays quiet? I Spoke to an expert who worked with survivors of a pedophile gang. They told her that as children they were taken into the woods. One of the men had found out they were going to talk. They took the smallest child from the group and said this is what happens if you talK. They poured petrol on him and set him on fire.
            You have, i have, this reporter has NO CLUE as to what goes on and NO RIGHT TO JUDGE THESE CHILDREN. Im done

          • YesTheyAre

            So in summary, it’s all a conspiracy.

            Glad we got that cleared up then.

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            Glad you cottoned on finally
            Well done

          • YesTheyAre

            Well you could have simply said that 3 hours ago.

            Have a lovely day, make sure “they” don’t get to you.

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            What a strange thing to say

          • Dr

            I’ve keenly read all your comments on this page “YesTheyAre” and it seems that you have some sort of agenda to discredit these testimonies with full effort. I hope people will see this and take notice…

          • LikesToBeInformed

            Because everybody who sees through this nonsense is a satanic paedo?

          • Dr

            Not one shred of evidence you say? You obviously haven’t looked through all the material. What about the detailed description regarding birth marks, warts and tattoos of the abusers lower regions, genetalia etc? This combined with names, places and various other information would be a legitimate reason to take action. There was even hard evidence back from 2014 that showed scarring in the children’s lower regions before the case was written off. Please do some research before discrediting a noteworthy testimony of young children at face value. Distasteful!

          • WakeUpNumpty

            Point me to any evidence that there are “birth marks, warts and tattoos of the abusers lower regions, genetalia etc”

            You can’t, because what you have read as evidence is on a blog. Were I to create a blog saying that the Moon was made of cheese would you believe it because it’s on the the Internet and so must be true?

            “This combined with names, places and various other information would be a legitimate reason to take action.”

            Action has been taken. There has been an investigation MONTHS AGO and nothing came of it. Even the blog you take as evidence states that the children have recanted the claims once they were away from the abusers who made them say this crap on video.

            “There was even hard evidence back from 2014 that showed scarring in the children’s lower regions before the case was written off.”

            Again, there is NO evidence that what you have read is true. You are simply parroting it as though it is fact.

            It is a blog written by somebody who clearly supports the mother, you know, the mother than made the kids say all this crap on video and then released it online for the World to see. Now THAT is abuse.

          • Jack Potts

            Precisely! !!

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            the author suggest the children are part of a hoax , ie, should be ignored

          • Keelan Balderson

            Just a note, please do not share any of the videos on here.

          • Clare Marie Inglesby-wood

            There was no need to. Just making a point

          • YesTheyAre

            “i didnt see the video where the children stated this. Do you have the link?”

            You specifically asked for a link and I had ZERO intention of providing one!

          • Jack Potts

            Keelan Balderson, WHO is paying you to discredit the children?
            All open minded decent folks reading this, are going to be asking themselves this, and other questions like; WHY are you so desperate to reduce the profile of this case? And WHY are you even involved?? WHAT is your relationship to the family???

          • Keelan Balderson

            Jack Potts, WHO is paying you to annoy me with tired conspiracy clichés?

            Because it’s far too much.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            Why are YOU involved then?

            You can’t even see the irony of your comment…

          • Jack Potts

            Ok clever dick, what evidence do you have, that there is no evidence?
            How do you ‘know’ there is no evidence?
            Just because you haven’t seen it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist! Derr!

          • LikesToBeInformed

            It is for those making the assertion that it all happened to provide the evidence. Or do you not believe in innocent until proven guilty?

            According to the blog you read the police investigated the claims months ago and no further action was taken, or do you choose to believe only the parts of the blog that you want to believe?

            Oh wait. All the police are in on it aren’t they, so along with the Local Authority, hundreds of parents, thousands of local people, McDonalds, Starbuck, Pizza Hut…and a guy making shoes out of baby skin at the local tube station shoe shop.

            The local people of Hampstead would be in uproar about this, if this happened in YOUR town, what would YOU do about it? So why aren’t the thousands of people in Hampstead doing something MONTHS AGO?

      • boptah

        You are Ricky Dearman, I claim my £5.

        • Keelan Balderson

          You are Elvis Presley.

        • LikesToBeInformed

          I’ve heard that for a fiver you can get a Baby Big Mac at the Hampstead McDonalds.

          I read it on the Internet so it much be true.

  • Alex

    This article must have been written by Ricky Dearman or Katy Forsdyke, as it’s obvious to anyone with a brain that these kids are telling the truth. “An isolated case of child abuse”?!! People know this is just the tip of the iceberg!!

    • Keelan Balderson

      No it was written by me, and it’s farrrr from obvious that they are telling the truth, in fact in my opinion it seems fairly obvious that most of what they’re saying is false.

      Do you honestly believe a local church used by many people, has a pile of dead baby skulls that the children and their alleged abusers dance on?

      AND if it was really true, that the kids could say so to the camera without even the slightest hint of fear?

      What is your agenda? Why do you want to believe this is true?

      • boptah

        “Without the slightest hint of fear”. You are blind as well as deluded.

      • brimble

        You seem to be the only one with the agenda, everyone else just wants open investigation.

        • LikesToBeInformed

          You mean like the police investigation that the local paper has said happened MONTHS AGO when these videos were made?

      • Chrispy T Chrispy T

        it happened in ireland. a nunnery with a baby skull catacomb and satanic rituals. anything you can imagine has already been imagined and realised

      • Anonymous

        Yes kids can say it without a hint of fear because it is there reality they know this and only this .. It is about as normal to them as gutting a chicken would be to you… Rituals go on all the time in churches why is it not possible that upstairs above McDonalds they could have been abused why not good a place a s any don;t need much to sacrifce a baby sharp knife table and a couple of goblets sure they could fit that in anywhere anything is possible most of their story is quite believable because of the hashed up investigation … Just wondering who is paying your wages you have a very strong agenda begining to think you are not a credible journo and are being paid off…

        I;m not up for witch hunts and don’t agree with sharing of personal info but perhaps there was no other choice sharing the vids keeps the kids alive ..Because if this is true and they did not leak the info thy would without doubt be dead these videos circulating are their only protection the care system is not to be trusted … If it’s not true then it;s a terrible shame but I’m sure the school and McDonalds will get over it in time …
        What is really refreshing is to see the comments from the people implicated coming forward and clearing their name lol …

      • Alex

        I’m not the one with an agenda here. Maybe you should try doing some research or investigation before writing this tripe.

  • Wendle

    Oh the police have found no merit to the allegations? Well no wonder! They’re in on it! They’ve been covering up this stuff for ages. Those kids were 100% legit and there is going to be more cases surfacing because this is widespread. It goes all the way up to the monarchy and the vatican.

    • Keelan Balderson

      How do you know they’re in on it? If they’re covering something up how do you know they’re covering it up? What evidence is there that the children are 100% legit?

      Not even the children name the monarchy and the Vatican.

      Stop being hysterical.

      • Mike

        Good luck convincing these people to be rational. They’ve been listening to David Icke’s paranoid fantasies for years.

        • LikesToBeInformed

          Careful the lizards are watching!

        • boptah

          paranoid fantasies like, Jimmy Saville, Cyril Smith, Rochdale, Rotherham and now Leon Brittan and potentially Ken Clarke. Plus many many more.

          • Keelan Balderson

            Jimmy Savile has been outed by actual evidence, Cyril Smith was not part of a satanic ritual abuse network if allegations against him are true, and Ken Clarke seems to only have been accused by serial bullshit artist Ben Fellows.

            What any of this has to do with this case, I have no idea.

          • boptah

            Because ‘actual evidence’ exists for this case. But like Jimmy Saville et al. the evidence was initially covered up by the police and others. This is endemic in this country. And i would be careful what you say, because it might have ramifications that you will not be pleased with.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            “And i would be careful what you say, because it might have ramifications that you will not be pleased with.”

            Are you threatening Keelan?

          • Keelan Balderson

            Bring me one more person that has been victimized by this satanic ring and I might give you the time of day.

            This is not comparable to Savile in any way.

          • brimble

            Saville was in a satanic ring

          • LikesToBeInformed

            There is NO evidence to suggest that the paedo Savile was part of a Satanic ring.

            There was one girl who said she THOUGHT it MIGHT be Savile in a mask.

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            two brought themselves to you. what’s the time?

          • brimble

            No it came out cause he died.

      • boptah

        The children specifically name 3 local police officers and several social services employees, Including describing distinguishing marks and physical features.
        There is ‘reasonable suspicion’ to investigate this case, and it will be investigated. So be careful what you say as you may regret it later.

        • Keelan Balderson

          You touched me, and you have a mole on your dick!

          Now you need to be rounded up and stripped in the public square to prove me wrong.

          • boptah

            You are being ridiculous and you know it. The ‘named’ teachers and parents do however need to have their privates checked by a doctor considering the nature and veracity of the claims and the fact of the medical exam by the health authority. which will be publicly viewable soon.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            So I accuse you of touching me and make a YT video. On that basis alone you should then be arrested and dragged off to a doctor to have your penis examined?

          • Keelan Balderson

            You do realise that even if medical evidence emerges (which it won’t because they don’t release such evidence), that it is still not proof of a network of Satanists right?

          • jackydoodoo

            Why wouldn’t you want this to be investigated? Surely you do? If there is a chance any of the things said by those two childeren in the videos this should be seen to as quickly and aggressively as possible. Why wouldn’t you agree with that? Witness statments are a major piece of evidence, anything you say will be given in evidence. I know they werent arrested but if it counts for a criminal then why not a child which claims to have been raped and forced to murder babies? Each and every person named should be jumping at the chance to defend them selves publicly. Why aren’t they making videos disproving this information? If I saiid you was a satan worshoping baby killer you’d be up in arms. no one but the father has defended himself, only to get access to the childeren. Which is pretty strange considering they are calling him a baby killing paedophile.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            It HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED. It’s in the local bl00dy newspaper you plank, it’s even linked to on this blog!

            What is pretty strange is that the so-called Satanic baby killing father has stuck around he has not been arrested for it and the local authority have given him access to the children.

            The mother and her crony Sabine have skipped the country leaving the children in care, the boyfriend is nowhere to be seen.

            THAT is strange, don’t you think? Haven’t you figured out what is REALLY go on here?

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            it would prove that the kids have carnal knowledge of their teachers privates.
            how they know would be arrived at by serious questioning. proof should be sought, not explained away

          • brimble

            You are disgusting

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            no, in the privacy of a police station- . i would go voluntarily if it cleared my name

          • Keelan Balderson

            Ok, well you abused me. So off you go.

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            Well, your claim is that I abused you. Now describe my genitals, off I will go and I will prove that you are lying.

        • LikesToBeInformed

          I guess the police went looking for all the tattooed children too and didn’t find any.

          • boptah

            This is the point. The police have not investigated anything. Instead the local council press office have denied that anything untoward is happening and there will not be a press release.
            Why has there not been a public statement refuting these claims?. If you do not think that their is ‘reasonable suspicion’ to warrant an investigation then i despair.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            You keep saying that the police have not investigated but a local paper states that the police HAVE investigated. READ IT PROPERLY THIS TIME.

            The local council press office will not comment on individual cases going through legal process, you have to be a complete idiot to think that they would.

            There has been a public statement in the newspaper article that you have not read properly.

          • brimble

            Google cover up. Still bit slow dear

          • brimble

            Again. Not understanding. Bless

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            if you like to be informed you dont guess anything. you call up barnet police and say did you get images of tattoos off the accused ? and if not, why not?

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            no, they investigated themselves and found themselves to be innocent

      • Chrispy T Chrispy T

        the kids named police in the videos, didnt you see? have you not watched their testimony yet? you cannot write an editorial on something you havent watched!

        • Keelan Balderson

          They named the police, the school, a shoe shop, multiple fast food restaurants, “all the cafes”, a church.

          However actual police records PROVE the man filming this video used to hit them and was aggressive.

          Who might really be the abuser here?

  • David Mortimer

    I don’t think what Keelan Balderson has said about the law is correct.

    • Keelan Balderson

      It doesn’t really matter what you think. You can’t go around naming minors and listing names of people as abusers. Go ask Robert Green where falsely accusing people got him.

      • boptah

        That depends on the circumstances. This is to be decided by a jury and not any statute or judge. This is a ‘common law’ jurisdiction. And what is required is a thorough ‘open’ investigation, which will only happen with public demand.

        • Keelan Balderson

          So some random bloke called boptah is supposed to be allowed to peruse sexual abuse case evidence on their own whims, so they can satisfy their own paranoia?

          • boptah

            Everyone should be allowed to view the evidence of court cases. The ONLY reason they do not allow it is to protect the guilty. Never the innocent. It is public awareness that protects. Not the sick, secretive system that you are so enamoured with.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            So you would be happy to know the names and faces of your children, along with the details of the abuse they suffered and their video evidence should be freely available for some paedo to wank over on YouTube?

            Idiot.

          • boptah

            If it meant that the guilty were caught. Then i would post them myself. You fucking fool.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            Then YOU would be in contempt of court as it is ILLEGAL.

          • brimble

            Not really grasping the whole concept behind the release of these videos are you?
            I suggest you remove your head from your arse and take a look.
            Idiot

          • LikesToBeInformed

            Not grasping the concept of going to prison for exposing the detail of CHILDREN for all the see on the Internet are you.

          • Keelan Balderson

            To what end? So people can share the videos on Facebook and act all hysterical for a week, before moving on to the next wild claim?

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            its called blowing the whistle. these kids are telling the truth. they answer straight away and in unison as theyve shared the same awful experiences.
            disbelief allows pedophilia to continue. and pedophilia is often the predilection of the powerful and incredibly rich. which is often why its covered up and allowed to continue. jimmy saviles atrocities only came to light after his death as he could have ratted out others if prosecuted while living

          • Keelan Balderson

            “straight away and in unison,” because they might have been coached/encouraged? As the police believe and the reviewer thinks is likely in some form?

        • LikesToBeInformed

          It certainly does not depend on the circumstances. Releasing the identities of minors or details that could identify the minors is contempt of court.

          Why do you think the mother has left the country and Sabina has fled to Germany? They were about to be busted for it!

          • boptah

            Every case is different. If events transpire that this case has suffered from being covered up and the court has failed to act properly. Then the judge and all those involved will be held to account. No one is above the law.
            It is a question of ‘fact and degree’. The nazis at nuremberg thought they were acting lawfully. But guess what.
            If the releasing of the childrens names leads to an investigation that involves the high court, then that will be taken into consideration.
            Remember, There are circumstances when it is perfectly lawful to take someones life, If the correct circumstances are present.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            Every case is NOT different, you are simply clueless. It is AGAINST THE LAW to reveal the details of a case where minors can be identified.

            Do you now get it? It is NOTHING to do with a particular case, it is AGAINST THE LAW and the courts take a seriously dim view of people doing it, which is why the mother and her cronies like Sabina are on the run!

          • boptah

            There are circumstances when the law is not the highest authority. A JURY is the highest authority in the land. Above even a high court judge. This is obviously not your specialist subject.
            Remember. The nazis were acting perfectly lawfully. But that did not matter at nuremberg.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            What dope are you smoking? The jury is not the law you pillock, a judge can dismiss every one of them.

            A jury have absolutely no power to release evidence and during a trial would be slung in jail for contempt of court. Just like I am hoping whoever released the videos are.

            Are you really this dim?

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            a jury judges the case AND the law

          • BillyJack85

            sorta like how your wife does not depend on you for her pleasure? releasing the coochie and titties to an amateur like you that could leave her dissatisfied.

            why do you think she calls me up when you leave for work and puts on the french maid uniform? she knows her coochie is about to be busted for it!

      • BillyJack85

        im sure you’d prefer parents just keep quiet when they find out their kids have been abused, unfortunately not everyone in the world willingly goes along with retarded laws that would take the power out of parents hands and give it to secret courts with questionable motives.

        luckily a lot of us don’t care what you think, and we only come to your feeble articles to piss on them and call you a fruity fly

  • James Whittaker

    Keelan Balderson proudly and righteously displays an utter ignorance of the matters involved here. Why anyone would continue to read his clearly ill-informed blog after reading this would be news to me.

    • Keelan Balderson

      James Whittaker arrogantly posts a meaningless comment that made everyone dumber after reading it.

      • BillyJack85

        Nahhh, James made a pretty astute observation actually. your article really was full of BS and operated from the premise that the allegations were false and that a mother doesn’t have a right to share any and all information that she wants as it pertains to her children.

        you look like the type of little fruit fly that would take the apparent absurdity of the allegations at face value and move to immediately discredit them without knowing anything about them. we have other parents from the school who have already substantiated what the children said, but you probably wouldn’t know anything about that either, seeing as how you’re so thorough in your research.

        it really makes one wonder if kids like you dismiss stories like these because you dont believe them possible, or if you have some vested interest in helping to cover up satanic ritual abuse. im gonna go ahead and assume you already know im leaning towards the latter..

    • LikesToBeInformed

      The only thing that makes this blog ill-informed compared to the ones you have read is your susceptibility to conformation bias.

      Don’t worry, it appears you are in the majority that have the infliction. Back to YouTube for you mate!

      • BillyJack85

        yea but you and people like you have no confirmation bias, do ya….mate

        • LikesToBeInformed

          How long did it take you to Google confirmation bias?

          • BillyJack85

            a better question is how can you bone your wife for an hour and get absolutely nowhere when i can slam her for 3 minutes, make her climax twice and have her nose bleeding…

  • Dr

    From an analytical approach the children’s testimonies are well enough to force a thorough and transparent investigation (from the outside) upon this matter. Else it would be nothing more than a scandal of large proportions.

    • LikesToBeInformed

      It has been investigated, months ago. If there was any hint that these claims were true the people of Hampstead would be burning the school down and it would be plastered all over the national and international news.

      Where are all the thousands of local Hampstead people demanding something should be done about it? There are none, because the local people know it’s all nonsense.

      What would YOU do if all these claims were in YOUR local town? Do you really think that YOU could be kept quiet about it? Now times that by the thousands of equally outraged citizens in YOUR town. Do you really believe that “they” could keep that quiet and out of the media?

      • boptah

        It was not investigated. The police refused to investigate because the children whilst in police custody, changed their story. Despite naming at least 3 local policeman and saying that they were threatened with death if they spoke about it. This is a cover-up, plain and simple.

        • Keelan Balderson

          How exactly do police investigate an ever changing story, with allegations so patently absurd that you know truth is not being told?

          You cannot investigate what doesn’t exist.

          The very fact that they have enough brain cells to realise there aren’t secret cookers in fast food restaurants to cook babies … then makes them part of the conspiracy?

          “refusal to investigate” is not a refusal to investigate, it’s a refusal to believe nonsense at face value.

          They went to the school, they did some basic checking and with the kids themselves supposedly changing and then recanting the story, what more can they do?

          Nobody else at the school believes one iota of this story. Do you think if there was real evidence all of the parents wouldn’t be all over this?

          This is another example of a long line of satanic ritual abuse hoaxes.

          The sad thing is the children in question are always subjected to some kind of psychological abuse in the process.

          Shame on those who encourage such behaviour!

          • boptah

            First of all. Shame on you for pronouncing judgement on a a serious case that has not been investigated and is actively being covered up. This is one of the easiest cases possible to investigate because of the huge amount of checkable evidence. You however are not disclosing what interests you have in the story , to be so blatantly biased and obfuscatory.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            Which bit of, this happened months ago and has been investigated don’t you understand?

            You are right, it is indeed “one of the easiest cases possible to investigate because of the huge amount of checkable evidence”. Which is why they have investigated and found NOTHING.

          • boptah

            They have not investigated the claims of the children. I have personally checked and they are refusing to investigate the claims of the children.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            You have phone the council press office who have refused to talk to some lunatic asking about Satanic ritual abuse taking place on an industrial scale that HAS BEEN INVESTIGATED BY THE POLICE.

            What do you expect them to tell you?

          • Keelan Balderson

            Judgement where judgement is due. Unlike you I have my own mind and don’t need to follow a mindless herd.

            I have always conceded that abuse may have taken place, and after all the children ARE in care … but I’m smart enough to recognise that the majority of the story is nonsense.

            It is this nonsense that could end up clouding the real facts.

          • brimble

            Are you meant to be a serious journo?
            You have taken a story with serious disclosures from children, ripped it to shreds and are actively mocking them on the internet.
            You are a disgrace and a shameful human being.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            Learn the difference between mocking the children and mocking the lunatics that posted it on-line and then more idiots believing that there are baby cooking facilities in a secret room in McDonalds.

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            do you think its nonsense that jimmy saville was a pedophile and molested kids in hospital? what a ludicrous claim, what what. pure nonsense.. who could make up such a fantasy?!

          • Keelan Balderson

            The sheer scope of corroborating allegations against Savile prove he was a vile predator. Bring me one more victim who says what the children said in their recanted allegations.

          • BillyJack85

            lol stfu…..before Savile was caught you were on here defending him, too. that’s how cowardly fruit flies like you operate. it’s a shame you cant admit it.

            how does it feel for your detractors to systematically get more thumbs-up than you do, too? people dont even like you on your own articles…

      • BillyJack85

        how exactly does everybody you argue with end up with more up-votes than you???? on an article that AGREES with you, no less??

        What would YOU do if all these claims of your wife being a SKANK were true?? Do you really think that SHE could keep quiet with me deep stroking her like an animal?? Now times those deep strokes by the thousands of deep strokes that were given in equal measure. Do you really believe that “she” could keep quiet and stop herself from climaxing? i doubt it!

  • avonpccwatch

    I would think it likely that some kind of abuse has taken place. This will have been investigated,and possibly resulted in the removal of the children. Clearly the publishing of unsubstantiated allegations by the mother and her partner,with the involvement of third parties are open to legal redress. Lists ‘lifted’ wholesale and then regurgitated and cached are vigilantism and to be deplored. Without possessing the facts it is impossible to comment on the case- however, if these children were indeed ‘coached’ in an attempt to get back at the absent father or others who the mother feels may have wronged them-this is child abuse.
    Unless there is a suggestion that Police-at all ranks- are complicit with this which in my experience is unlikely, we have a duty to these children to be rational and the damning of all of those people listed- some of whom I have researched, without adequate investigation discredits the Alternative Media.

    • Brimble

      Why were the accused or representatives) at the school initially invited to the strategy meeting. This is outrageous!

      • avonpccwatch

        I would expect that at Strat mtgs Educators would attend-but the DCI concerned is one of the most experienced- if you read the supporting documents online,which are cached, you will see how this has evolved.

    • Chrispy T Chrispy T

      have you seen serpico? sometimes all police are corrupt, and or compromised.
      it was the case in 1970s NYC

      • avonpccwatch

        Yes- I have seen Serpico..all UK police are not corrupt. The Mcdonalds for example closed on Sunday Nov.17th.2013- I have been there before and after it closed. I have never seen huge comings and goings of Satanists-neither then nor now. If every Weds. a hundred parents had a sex day at the school one would expect either a huge influx of traffic or people- I have seen none.
        The schools Ofsted report has been Excellent and one would imagine that the whole school would have an undercurrent of knowledge that something strange was afoot- school work would suffer, no doubt. I could go on- these children are victims of child abuse, I have no doubt, those accused named and identified are also victims until their complicity is proven.

  • Jack Potts

    This has to be the biggest load of intellectually manipulative bullshit I have ever read!
    Words like “maybe deemed”, “may well be considered” etc!!
    Wtf? If I was a betting man, I’d put £100 that this was written by a complicit satanic!
    I just hope other readers perceive the utter vagueness of this article!
    Good luck Sabine whoever you are.

    • Keelan Balderson

      What’s manipulative about that you bloody idiot?
      You can’t go naming the details of minors involved in family court cases. That’s just the law.

      Not everyone is going to be charged for sharing this stuff because it’s not feasible.

    • http://nationaleschulden.eu/ Sabine Kurjo McNeill
      • Keelan Balderson

        *Please do not share links to videos that involve images and personal details of the children.*

        I removed your other post. People can easily google your name.

      • Wanted

        Sabine, why have you and the mother left the country and left the children to the Local Authority?

        • http://nationaleschulden.eu/ Sabine Kurjo McNeill

          I do NOT want to be falsely imprisoned! I have visited enough prisoners and campaigned for them NOT to become one of them! For I can NOT be active, once inside!

          • Mr moore

            You are an absolute disgrace. There is no more a satanic paedophile baby killing ring in Hampstead than there are lions on the moon planning an invasion on earth. What there is are two poor children who are the victims of mal-adjusted adults who are supposed to be their carers but have exposed them to God knows what. What you have done, along with all your conspiracy nut friends is destroy their futures by splashing their names and identities world wide. This is something they will never be able to escape and will no doubt damage them psychologically for life. Many legitimate concerns were being raised by the secrecy of court of protection and what you have done is to justify everything people were fighting against – this matter will be cited for years to come whenever anybody tries to chip away at the secrecy which no doubt has caused agony for many victims of unjust cases. You’ve also presumably wrecked any chance of the kids ever getting out of care by involving the mother in this lunacy. You live in an electronic world divorced from reality which is validated and made real to you by a few hundred other nut bars. You are dangerous, and I hope to god there is a Europe arrest warrant being issued, for what you have done to those children you deserve years. Though I guess you will be busy googling ‘how to protect yourself from lunar Lions’ for the next few hours.

          • mr moore

            Oh, and now I see it has been featured in the local paper of Hampstead, ‘ and lo the people of Hamstead did gaze upon their field of fucks, and it was barren and they were unable to harvest for the smell of taurine excrement was strong upon them ‘ – nice touch by the way including the names and addresses of a load of teachers, parents, shop assistants, cobblers etc etc hope they sue you when you get out of jail.

          • Wanted

            Sabine, thank you for the response.

            Falsely imprisoned for what alleged crime?

          • Keelan Balderson

            For spreading the personal details of children in care proceedings all over the internet, and accusing people without an ounce of proof of being abusers.

            This is just the law catching up with her witch hunt. There’s nothing “false” about it.

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            proof would be positive id of genital tattoos and piercings of all teachers and assistants named. have the police sought thus evidence?

            if i could so easily prove my innocence by volunteering this u would do so.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            Equally proof is the lack of evidence of baby slaughtering rooms at McDonalds and any number of the wild claims made by the children.

            The professionals are dealing with this.

          • Keelan Balderson

            Even if they did, somebody would probably just claim the person had their tattoo removed. I’ve already seen a hoax facebook page of one of the alleged abusers. The page has only one like, and is for a tattoo removal company.

            People are actually making fake evidence because they want to believe so badly.

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            Did you find the fake facebook page yourself? (I did previously, and thought it quite suspect. But the Ricky Dearman page is real obviously and not a silly mock up).
            Well, skin piercings are quite hard to cover over and tattoos leave different skin tone when removed.
            KB and LTBI.
            I don’t know about the McDonalds. I’d like to though.

            About the police being ‘professional’, if the police named by the children are involved in investigating the case, do you think they might find themselves innocent, perhaps?

          • BillyJack85

            why do i get the feeling every time you post something that a satanic ritual abuse party is one member short?

      • BillyJack85

        Keep fighting the good fight.

    • BillyJack85

      Bravo. Well Stated. I couldn’t agree more.

      The unabashed biased nature of this article and the look of the fruit fly who posted it, as well as the shills running rampant in the comment section, lets me know that the cover up is in full swing.

      I recently found this same exact thing on a youtube video about the McMartin Preschool case. I looked up the youtube history of the person who made the video, as well as one of the major shills in the comment section, and they were literally OVERT satanists. These people don’t even try to hide what team they play for. They post misinformation like it’s going out of style and don’t even attempt to conceal their own links to satanism. That’s how bold they are.

      I find comfort in the fact that comments like yours have double the amount of up-votes as all the shills on here and even the author of the article himself. It really lets you know who’s winning the information war, and it’s not them.

      What these satanists don’t realize is that this story is so obscure that there’s really only 2 groups of people who know about: those who have taken a definite stand against satanic ritual abuse and the abuse of children in general, and the perpetrators of satanic ritual abuse and those who try to cover it up. That’s it. They’re not swaying public opinion or having any affect when they post these misinformation articles. All they’re doing is making themselves look stupid and exposing them for who they really are.

      You can tell the shills from the people who are legitimately concerned about this case and are on the fence about what to believe by the way they talk. The shills have all the same talking points, which are as follows:

      1. Focusing on the so-called criminality of a PARENT who has decided to make public the allegations of abuse by her own children, which is fully within her rights and is completely logical and necessary given the fact that the same people supposedly investigating the case are also the same people being accused of the abuse.

      2. Focusing on the so-called criminality of Sabine Mcneill, who is only releasing information pertaining to the children per the MOTHERS request.

      and, 3. Attempting to lay all the blame on the mothers boyfriend, and pretend that it makes any sense whatsoever that he would try to cover up his abuse of the children by helping them concoct a story that places the blame on public figures/ officials, which he would HAVE to know would only end up getting the children interviewed by the very same authorities and the suspicion turned right back on HIM. This would literally be the first time in history that a pedophile was getting away with abusing children, and preemptively decided to coerce the children into blaming the POLICE in an attempt to take the focus off of themselves.

      If you see people saying any one or all three of these things, you can rest assured they are satanic ritual abusers and pedophiles who are trying to cover for themselves and/ or their friends. These people are MUCH more confident that these children’s allegations are false than the advocates are that the children’s stories are true. This is another dead-giveaway that we’re dealing with frauds.

  • smurfette

    Where exactly do you think child porn COMES FROM? It is a big, moneymaking, disgusting industry and of course it is very underground. There are some VERY SICK people in this world that prey on innocent children. To call these children liars makes me wonder about your motives, because any person with a heart can see just by looking at them that they are haunted. They have eyes that have seen too much. Their father looks like a narcissistic prick. Innocent til proven guilty-yes…but there is NO WAY that those kids are lying. I watched a couple of the videos and the kids don’t look to anyone as they are talking-everything is coming from memory of events. You can see them remembering and coming up with names-there is NO WAY that was coached. Not even adults could lie so easily and make it look real. Not to mention that doctors have found anal scarring! Are you kidding me!
    These kids have been brutally abused and it won’t get shoved back under the rug now that its out there. Yes, it sounds absolutely crazy, but there are things going on in this world that are absolutely crazy and we can’t discount the children just because it “seems” unlikely. These disgusting people are making a lot of money off of what they’re doing. The father has a media company and travels all over the world-he’s making money from doing a weight loss business? Bullshit. Can’t wait til these horrible people are brought to justice and they see that they have no power at all, despite their bullshit satanic “religion.” Pedophiles. The universe will make this right.

    • IronyHunter

      “Their father looks like a narcissistic prick. Innocent til proven guilty-yes…but there is NO WAY that those kids are lying.”

      Irony is obviously lost on you.

      • Smurfette

        Did you not see the “but” in that sentence “Irony Hunter?” (Clever name) I understand that legally we are all innocent until proven guilty. BUT I have watched several of these videos and, using LOGIC, can see that there is no way these two children could possibly have been coached to say these things. There is too much information, too detailed, too many names, too many identifying factors, too many things that can easily be proven untrue but haven’t been. And yes, he looks like a narcissist. He looks creepy as fuck. This doesn’t make him guilty, but it makes it a hell of a lot easier to see it as true. Keelan, thank you for calling me a moron. You are a grown man who is calling two young children liars. Who knows your motivation, but whatever it is, I have NO respect for you. I will always stand for children, even if I’m not from the same country. I will always take them seriously and I would never ever publicly call two abused children liars. Especially considering the backlash they are receiving from people like you. And judging from the comments, I’m not the only one that feels this way. Guess we will see where this goes and then we can know who is right. I hope I’m not right and these kids haven’t been brutally abused. Like I said, where is that you think child porn comes from? Some mythological place in the sky? No, its made by people who act like normal people, our neighbors, professionals, etc. Like anything else that makes money, people are willing to sell their souls and even their children’s bodies and spirits to make a lot of money. And to also fulfill their own perversions. But you go ahead, you’ve got it all figured out and have done your own investigation and know enough to publicly call out two little kids liars all over the internet. Congrats

        • IronyHunter

          Thank you for confirming that irony is indeed lost on you.

          • Smurfette

            Thank you for confirming that you have nothing of substance to add to the conversation.

          • IronyHunter

            Pot, kettle, black.

          • Smurfette

            My soul, it’s wounded.

          • IronyHunter

            Thank you for confirming that you have nothing of substance to add to the conversation.

            This is getting too easy now, keep digging that hole though.

          • Smurfettesaysbye

            What hole? lol I feel like I’m writing to a robot that responds with common one liners. :) I am done responding but I hope I have provided some entertainment for you. I feel so special, I have engaged with a troll. Enjoy your day.

          • IronyHunter

            “I feel so special”

            Yes, because you went to a special school.

          • IronyHunter

            Oh and don’t up-vote your own comments. ;)

        • Keelan Balderson

          Smurfette you’re a terrible person. You’re wrapping yourself up in self-righteous delusions and then hiding behind two innocent children to protect your argument … by framing it like I’ve just found two random kids and screamed at them as liars.

          The truth is the children have been victims the whole way through this and I’m well aware of that fact. That’s why unlike you and your gaggle of true believers, I don’t name them, plaster their faces all over the web, nor automatically side with their mother in a case where they were removed from HER custody.

          Show some critical thinking you fool.

          • Smurfette

            Yes, I’m a terrible person that stands up for children. What an amusing response. I’m glad I checked back. I haven’t spread one thing about this around the web. YOUR article is all over the web. How do you think I got here? I saw the videos and googled the story and here we are. I have simply commented on your opinion with my opinion. I don’t “side” with the mother-I don’t know her. Nor have I posted anything about this besides my opinion on this article. All I know is what I saw in the videos. And I do believe the children. And you ARE calling them liars. Talk about self righteous, you are roaring about this as if you know what really happened yourself. This will not go away. I will watch and see how it plays out from where I am. That is all I can do as I am too far away. But I will stand for them. The kids. If that makes me terrible, a fool, lacking critical thinking skills, or self righteous to you, so be it. Name calling is so cheap and easy. No matter, as I have not one ounce of respect for your opinion, Keelan Balderson. Good day, sir. :)

          • Keelan Balderson

            Smurfette you’re still a terrible person. You’re still wrapping yourself up in self-righteous delusions and then hiding behind two innocent children to protect your argument.

    • Keelan Balderson

      Well there you have it. Case closed. Smurfette says there’s NO WAY they’re lying.

      IF and I mean IF there is medical evidence that can only be explained by abuse … morons like you are clouding the incident with a load more unneeded extra baggage.

      An isolated case of abuse, becomes a giant satanic ring. That’s a great way to allow the perps to get away with it don’t you think?

      • Chrispy T Chrispy T

        bring in all the school wrkers and photograph their privates. if they have tattoos and piercings as described by the kids then arrest them and let the questions continue. arent there any honest police in barnet or west hampstead?

        • Keelan Balderson

          That’s called a witch hunt.

          The children recanted their stories.

          • Chrispy T Chrispy T

            i would volunteer it to clear my name. i dont trust you.
            you are damage control.

          • LikesToBeInformed

            It doesn’t matter what you would do, what matters is what the police believe is required during their enquiries.

            Clearly the people who are involved in this case and in full possession of the evidence, or lack of evidence, are in a better position that you.

            On the basis of the children recanting their claims and there being ZERO evidence of the children being buggered by hundreds of devil worshipping paedos while cutting babies heads off and serving baby Macs and fries every Wednesday, I guess the police decided that there was no need to arrest hundreds of people and demand that they show their penises and vaginas.

            Being accused of being a paedo is a DAILY occurrence for those who deal with children professionally, you’d be shocked at how often unfounded claims are made to get back at somebody that the child, parent or family don’t like.

            The police would be kept very busy if they had to arrest everybody in the profession and ask to see their privates.

    • The Dove

      There are hundreds of people being convicted in uk every week of offences of viewing child pornography. This is going largely unreported in the media. It is going on on a massive scale – the statistics prove it and it is going on in the Uk. The criminal courts are dealing with the per users of porn but very little is being done to stop it at source as far as I can see. I think that the autor may be minimising a very serious issue that is definitely going on in the uk ie the sustained abuse of children on a large scale.

  • http://nationaleschulden.eu/ Sabine Kurjo McNeill

    And, please dear author, click below and look for June Wiggan who confirmed 4 days ago what the children have been saying. It’s not about ‘believing’ and opinions. It’s about KNOWING the case and giving the CHILDREN a voice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LtncDnCRPYo

    Please listen also to the interview I gave to Canadian Alfred Labremont Webre on https://www.change.org/p/the-rt-hon-theresa-may-mp-return-whistleblower-kids-and-abuse-survivors-of-london-school-to-their-russian-family

  • boptah

    The link does not mention any investigation. It does however mention the fact that they are trying to remove the story from the internet.

    • LikesToBeInformed

      Read it again.

      • boptah

        They investigated for sexual abuse and found evidence of it. But they have not investigated the claims of the children. This is what this is about, The childrens claims of a satanic paedophile cult involving many many people, including teachers, police , and others. Not to mention murdering babies and making snuff movies. If you do not think this needs investigating, then God help your conscience.

        • LikesToBeInformed

          The school has been investigated, it’s there in the news report. So now presented with a local news article stating that the investigation was carried out you still refuse to believe it.

          What more do you want? You have a NEWS REPORT saying that NOTHING HAPPENED.

      • BillyJack85

        read your wife’s texts to my cell phone begging for cqck again

  • Keelan Balderson

    Belinda Mckenzie has always been an odd egg in the “truth movement,” attaching herself and her endless bank balance to all sorts of dubious causes.

    • sunmoom

      Belinda Mckenzie (nee Boswell) says on her “linked in” profile, Languages: French, German, Spanish, Japanese and Farsi (Persian) … intelligence services like people who are proficient in foreign languages. 1990s UK Liaison for Kenkyusha Eigo Centre Tokyo, Overseas Study
      Service, providing educational consultancy and pastoral services to
      Japanese students, academics and business people visiting UK for
      language study, research or special training. Sounds like she worked at the British Council in Tokyo.

    • sunmoom

      Not sure if you have seen this, or if you can legally put it up. Someone on the Icke site has posted a link to the medical reports of the children. Following on from my original comment the children say they were given green juice to drink by the boyfriend which gave them stomach ache .. could be raw hemp (cannabis) juice. More importantly they say they were physically abused by the boyfirend and sexually abused by the father. Poor kids.

      • Keelan Balderson

        Just been reading through them all at it’s very complex, but it would certainly seem isolated cases of abuse did take place.

        It seems the authorities are not sure to what degree the boyfriend was coaching the children to blame the father and sensationalise their stories, to hide his own abuse.

        It’s all a mess, and the satanic hysterics are only clouding matters,

  • brimble

    No. It wasnt. You see what you want to see.

    • LikesToBeInformed

      I see a local Hampstead news article that stated it. You know, the one that local Hampstead people would read and know about. You know, the people who send their children to the school.

      If there was any doubt what-so-ever then those local Hampstead parents would be BURNING THE SCHOOL DOWN.

      Yet there is NOTHING from the people of Hampstead, no protests, NOTHING. How do you explain that the people of Hampstead are not protesting? Not filling up social media with all the gossip?

      • GuardianFruitTree

        There is a resident of Hampstead discussing it on the David Icke forums.

        The latest Sabine interview video states other local parents have contacted the show regarding these events.

        • LikesToBeInformed

          Riiight, the Icke forums….and Sabine keeps referring to ONE poster in YT comments.

          Where are the THOUSANDS of Hampstead people on Facebook and Twitter?

          • BillyJack85

            Riiight, your wife comes to you for sex……and that’s why she’s scratching outside my front door like a cat in heat everyday.

            Where are the THOUSANDS of bed linens that she’s ruined from squirting?

      • BillyJack85

        i see a local housewife in heat. you know, the one that would turn you and your 4 inch pecker down for sex then come to mi casa to give me head. you know, the wife who blows me then comes home and kisses you on the mouth.

        if there was any doubt that you’ve been tasting my DNA all over your wife’s mouth you should be BRUSHING YOUR TEETH TIL THEY BLEED.

        and yet there is NOTHING you can do about it, no recourse, NOTHING. how do you explain that you bought this bytch a ring and took care of her for so long? not filing for divorce with all the cheating she’s done? EXPLAIN!

  • avonpccwatch

    Hi- Thanks for the link which I have read- though things were very different in Policing those days,I take your point. What I meant, and should have been clearer, is that both uniformed and CID specialists would have been involved-these would have supervising Sgts.- who would have themselves to be supervised. Files need to go to CPS for consideration, a MAPPA case conference would be called. Many people would need to be involved, having no evidence or real information ,other than my knowledge of the area and having visited the places concerned I have my opinions. As Keelan points out the case is just not helped by wild extrapolations- which I don’t intend to involve myself in. I am grateful to you for making your comments and am always willing to explore alternative viewpoints.

  • awareness

    Very pathetic reasoning keelan , you are a troll.. Do you know why the mother released the details? Because the police, also named by the children, refused to begin a PROPER criminal investigation.. hmmm why? have you even studied the Franklin case, Ted gunderson? John de camp? you are a disgrace keelan. Why do you think the cops showed up to arrest her without a warrant?? which by the way is a COMMON cps tactic in stealing children. the world is waking up! And, our energy is much stronger than these low level Parasites, hence why they drink vital fractal blood. wouldn’t want to bring ancient history or physics or even common law into your delusional realm keelan.
    Peace to you

    • YouKnowNothing

      For certain crimes Police in the UK don’t need a warrant to arrest you, they can force entry to your home to arrest you and they can then search the premises after you have been arrested.

      If it isn’t your home that you are at they can search it for evidence in relation to the arrest. They can even search the premises of where you have immediately been for evidence in relation to the arrest.

      It is a misconception that a warrant is required in all cases for an arrest and it is a misconception that once arrested they still need a search warrant.

      Learn the law mate.

      • boptah

        Why then did the police leave, without an arrest. Because the mother had her barrister with her at the time.
        The barrister thankfully, knew the law. Which you should learn.

        • YouKnowNothing

          Since we only have her version of events then we don’t know it any of it is true!

          There is nothing in my comment that is wrong.

          • boptah

            They have to have ‘reasonable suspicion’ which is why the couldn’t get past the barrister

          • YouKnowNothing

            It depends on the crime. Do you actually read what people say?

            You don’t know if the event actually happened at all as you only have HER telling you so.

        • YouKnowNothing

          Have you seen the videos showing the police interviews with the children?

          • boptah

            Yes i have seen all the videos several times before google removed them.
            The recanting videos were obviously done under duress as pointed out by Kylie Wilson in the judicial review doc’s.

          • YouKnowNothing

            You believe the children in the first set of videos an don’t believe that they were coerced.

            You do not believe the children in the second set of videos and do believe that they were coerced.

            Either way it proves that they can be coerced and are liars.

            Glad we got that cleared up.

      • awareness

        right troll, that’s why they LEFT after she demanded a warrant.
        And if what you say is true how come hey didn’t to arrest the accused!? Everyother time they’d be picked up and hauled in. So long as they are run of the mill criminals, not high level organized syndicate.

        all arrests require warrants unless a felony in progress has been witnessed. learn the real law and not the corporate one they get morons like you to consent to.

        • YouKnowNothing

          Felony? This is the UK mate and you know nothing about police powers of arrest and entry.

          You are taking HER version of events being true.

          • awareness

            have you not been following the common law movement there? no one charged with crimes they are not liable for etc. Law is the same everywhere when boiled down, sure you may become victim of a HUGE CRIME SYNDICATE (e the gov) for standing up for you inherent rights, but would you rather be a coward??

            so answer this and MAYBE people in this forum will listen to what you have to say, why did they not start an investigation and issue warrants for searches and arrests etc. why close the case and keep everything in secret family court? We’re waiting for another brilliant reply troll.

            Also have you even begun to study the Franklin case? Or ancient history?

          • YouKnowNothing

            Oh dear, you have gone full retard now. The common law movement, or as we like to call them in the UK, lunatics, are frequently thrown into jail for contempt of court and not paying fines. So much for that common law movement eh?

            Stick to the law where you are because you know absolutely nothing about the law in my land.

          • awareness

            You have gone full troll now, peace
            people need to know how to visualize the ancient angel alphabet to create a charge bubble plasma torriodal fractal field to be able to connect with others aura and have enough compassion/inertia to steer clear of this mess, if you have never had a flying dream or lucid dream you are in bad shape, once your charge is strong enough you have leverage on low level parasites similar to the trolls in this forum, stand in your truth and honor and knowing, know that you can become part of soul groups and inhabit star fields, know your inherent rights these fools here try to say don’t exist and that corporate rule is the way to live.

            Peace

          • camdengirl

            Maybe start taking the meds mate. You may find it helps.

    • Keelan Balderson

      “hence why they drink vital fractal blood.”

      … and I’m the troll? Go away you deluded cretin.

      • awareness

        How long do you think these blood rituals have been goin on? you are pure disinfo or highly ignorant.

        Again, have you studied the Franklin case????

    • The Dove

      The cps has nothing to do with family courts – you need to become better informed before you shoot your mouth off – these are serious matters and misinformed people like you are not helping!

  • Careful

    Linking to the documents could be shown as publishing them, which is contempt of court.

    Best remove the link.

  • rawr

    Hmmm…. Interesting. Anyone who is against the kids, where there is MEDICAL evidence they have been abused for years is probably, mostly likely in on it and trying to shut up the public. They have to protect themselves somehow and articles like this is a technique

    • Keelan Balderson

      Medical evidence that they “might” have been abused, which would most likely point towards their mother’s violent partner if anyone, and perhaps their abusive father before that, all under the watch of the neglectful mother.

  • BillyJack85

    your wife WAS ravaged, a local milkman did it, too!

  • Kats Cakes

    Those kids are telling the truth they know what blood tastes like they know the baby skin is sticky they know the heads are hard to cut because of the spine not to mention the description of the private parts of those involved there’s no way these kids would know such details it’s a cover up because the main stg in the net police is in on it along with other elite people high up enough to cover it all up

    • Wrong

      The children lied. It really is that simple.

      • Kats Cakes

        Body language expert they never lied only people in on it would say that

  • InterestedAussie

    It is so interesting to read the angle taken in this article. There are so many examples of attempts to discredit the victims and those who are supporting them, distortion and misrepresentation of facts, even bringing in the well-worn “satanic-panic”/ mass hysteria angle… I must say, these tactics may have been successful 20 years ago when the first of these cases became public, but they just aren’t any more. The international community is no longer ignorant of the existence of these criminal networks and their corruption of government and other institutions. The UK newspapers are awash with these cases every day, as is the US and other international jurisdictions, such as Australia where there is currently a Royal Commission into the corruption and cover up of child sexual abuse cases. At the very least this article reflects very poor/lazy “journalism” …

    • Keelan Balderson

      What’s more interesting is YOUR irrational response. The satanic panic was and is a real phenomenon researched by academics far more intelligent that YOU. The fact that you can brush that aside as just some “tactic” by a mythical force of control, shows that you’re not here for “facts and evidence” or context, but for some kind of emotional or psychological reason.

      You speak of a “well worn angle,” but it is YOU trotting out the same old tactic of hiding behind the victims. I’m not discrediting the children or calling them liars. They are children. It is the abusive adults that surround them and people like you that are the problem.

      Yes the media has been full of REAL paedophile scandals. It is the Satanic panic that helps to distract people from those real cases.

  • IMHO2015

    I think the point the last Commenter was trying to make was simply that the community isn’t naïve to these crimes anymore and that if any journalist covering cases like this one wants to have any credibility with the global community they need to research the topic thoroughly and report on it accurately.

    • Keelan Balderson

      The “global community” or few thousand idiots that give the alternative media and conspiracy culture a bad name?

    • miraclelilies

      indeed, and they rarely do. Because they are ruled by the same fear that rules the slaves who work for the corrupt State-labourers who have created jobs off the back of Serious Organised Crime. Most journalists just report what is fed to them in a Press Release – and everything emanating from the bogus “HMCTS” is taken as read and accepted hook line and sinker – highly dangerous.
      I know that many members of the Legal Profession have been threatened re their careers if they don’t back down on cases where they are taking a stand for Truth or acting with good conscience, all because these court non-hearings are rigged to the hilt, mostly – ruling by fear and intimidation under threat of incarceration if anyone dares to cross them.

  • LeonG

    That’s right – media black out – discredit the victims and whitewash the authorities. It is time we removed the veil on this systemic culture of child abuse at the highest levels and the so-called forces of “law & order” who are effectively there to stop any meaningful investigations in order to protect the filthy bastards who are perpetrating their disgusting protected activities while the innocent suffer. Look how long Theresa May dragged her feet on the inquiry into Westminster & Buckingham Palace being possible venues for ritual child abuse – so, if they are not guilty why all the delay and the attempts to bias the membership of these inquiry panels in favour of those accused? The whole issue smells very bad indeed.

    • Keelan Balderson

      The media don’t report on these cases ever, until a conviction. It’s not a blackout, it’s standard procedure under the family court legislation. After the fact finding hearing, NOW the media are reporting on it, and they are pretty much echoing everything I’ve written. Because that’s what the evidence points to.

      The mother and partner were abusers and coached the children.

      • miraclelilies

        The Media are but puppets of the State. They swallow what they are fed. They rarely, if ever, investigate ANY of the hard evidence. The Vicky Haigh case is a prime example – not one journalist or Minister or MP examined the police reports or interview with the 5 year old child in Vicky’s case, who was being abused, and the report was “restricted” deliberately for this reason… The Home Secretary was handed the police interviews in a sealed envelope and when she realised she would have to act if she opened it and saw with her own eyes the hard evidence, she declined to open the envelope.
        so she could then say “I haven’t seen any evidence to show abuse” etc…these are all games they play. The so-called “judges” feed a diatribe of lies to the Press Gallery, all untested HEARSAY, routinely in HMCTS. They have sophistry and sophisticated methods to skirt the due process and eschew a fair hearing – thousands can attest to this.

        • Keelan Balderson

          A bit like how you swallowed what Sabine et al fed you eh?

          • miraclelilies

            I’d rather dine with and support a Truth seeker and Truth-speaker than swallow the untested diatribe of lies and poison chalice of criminals whilst feasting with corrupt satanists as you appear to be doing…do you believe in force-feeding? Obviously you do. The SECRET court sessions were nothing more than a damage-limitation exercise and force-feeding to pacify the collapsing walls of Babylon which are crumbling around them all now….

          • Keelan Balderson

            “untested diatribe of lies and poison chalice of criminals whilst feasting with corrupt satanists.”

            sufferin succotash

          • miraclelilies

            Keelan Balderson – are you a journalist?? or a social worker? or a legal “professional”? or something else?

            Read Sabine’s words which have more resonance of Truth than anything you’ve written here….

            “Her Ladyship’s judgement is one of a political nature to sway public opinion such that she will get away with handing custody to the father with a criminal past and two non-molestation orders, while the mother had a residence order in place, when Barnet Police took her children.
            If Mr Christie was the guilty abuser, why did he take the children to the Police?”

            this is not a late night chat show / entertainment for your peers y’know, these are people’s lives we’re dealing with here. The System is self-imploding and is in a self-destruct mode. Alleluia!

          • Keelan Balderson

            Actually I’m a Butcher, a Baker, and a Candlestick Maker.

          • miraclelilies

            obviously a participating social worker. this is all a joke to you, we can see….

          • Keelan Balderson

            So somehow you’ve concluded I’m “obviously a participating social worker.”

            I wonder what that says about all of your other wild conclusions?

          • SennaStar .

            More likely you dine with the social workers

  • LeonG

    The sooner we have a truly independent inquiry which is not hindered in any way at all by biased official parties or uninformed vigilantes then the sooner we can sort out the truth from the fiction. I am sure most of us involved would like to see that at least. So, why all the delays and the fuss in doing this? What is there to hide? We need to sort this out on a national and international basis.

    • Keelan Balderson

      Have you read the fact finding judgement from the Royal Courts of Justice?

      • miraclelilies

        No, because there is no fact finding. A fact finding has to be obtained by a JURY, only, and with independent witnesses and without undue influence. And it has to be lawfully obtained and procured and be free of intimidation, threats and fear-mongering – all of which are prevalent here

        • Keelan Balderson

          Nope, it was just a normal fact finding hearing like the hundreds if not thousands done every year.

          I’d hope they charge the abusers and have a criminal trial though, because they deserve to be locked up.

          • miraclelilies

            you are obviously a PR stuntman for the corrupt officials involved here. No such thing as a “normal fact finding hearing” as there is nothing normal about any of this whatsoever, I can tell you have no first-hand experience and are swallowing the lies hook, line and sinker. I don’t know what work you do for a living but you sure do come across as somewhat uninformed, even naive dare I say?

          • Keelan Balderson

            A PR Stuntman – that sounds exciting. Like hand-gliding while dropping business cards.

          • miraclelilies

            perhaps you should apply to become a “judge” for the Ministry of Injustice? After all, they are desperate for new judges and are recruiting now….

      • miraclelilies

        “judgment” – what judgment? Bollocks to that!

        “Judgment is a prison, the implicit message beneath every judgmental thought is “I’m trapped”. I free myself with a compassionate mindset of Love, Wisdom and awareness.” (The Yoga of therapy)

  • Ryan

    This article is ironic in that it is the very representation of the term eyes wide shut. Until this planet starts to open it’s eyes to the true EVIL that DOES exist in it (including those in places of untouchable power) – this is going to continue to be swept under the rug. These sick people with power, money and influence, actually BELIEVE that they get their power from this kind of evil acts of sick violence. They are like a bunch of junkies that justify everything they do in their minds – as long as they get their “fix” anything that is deemed to keep the power coming, is more than okay by them. While very rich and powerful, they are very very SICK people and that is all there is to it. To think that people are not capable of such acts, is to ignore the entire dark history of humankind on this planet. Yes it’s possible. Yes it’s likely. and yes, even today, this kind of sick behavior exists. Ever wonder why the billions and billions of dollars for some of these elitist scumbags is Never enough? That’s why: they are mentally and spiritually sick in the worst way.. nothing will ever be enough for them in the dark states of minds. Stanley Kubrick’s final movie Eyes Wide Shut- was more of a confessional than a fictional movie.

    • Keelan Balderson

      Well that was a fucking waste … you managed to say absolutely nothing in that one giant paragraph.

      Rich evil people … blah blah … Kubrick Movies.

      Look I shortened it for you.

      • miraclelilies

        No, you haven’t shortened it at all. You’ve merely let your ego lead you – again. You are losing credibility – fast, Keelan.

        • Keelan Balderson

          Credibility with who … you and your gaggle of abuser protectors?

          • miraclelilies

            Correction. You have no credibility. You are the illegal protector of abusers and will eventually be hanging your head in shame. Wait and see how mistaken you are.

          • Concerned parent

            It seems that its you who is protecting the abusers by trying to move the spotlight onto the man who helped the children expose their abuse. He may not be perfect, but he did the right thing for those children, exposing their abuse and attempting to protect them. Why are you concentrating on him and not the sickening paedophiles using ritual to scare the children into not telling? This sort of abuse is happening all over Europe and the US. Luckily in the US they take it more seriously and actually convict the sick animals.

          • Keelan Balderson

            “He may not be perfect” hahahah the understatement of the century.

  • miraclelilies

    Her Ladyship’s judgement is one of a political nature to sway public opinion such that she will get away with handing custody to the father with a criminal past and two non-molestation orders, while the mother had a residence order in place, when Barnet Police took her children.

    If Mr Christie was the guilty abuser, why did he take the children to the Police?

    • Keelan Balderson

      Simply put … because he’s mental.
      Why search for rational answers? It’s not like he was acting rational when hitting the children with spoons!

      • miraclelilies

        Who are you to judge? FYI psychiatry is the biggest scam ‘industry’ there is – and has NEVER been proven. You’re not acting rational with this blog, either. Waste of space.

        • Keelan Balderson

          He’s a proven abuser, has a file and was charged for beating his own kid. We’re not dealing with a rational human being here. It has nothing to do with psychiatry, it’s self evident from his crimes.

      • miraclelilies

        You clearly know nothing.

    • richard lowley

      he took them to the police to cover his ass thats what those children could not possibly remember all the information on those videos if it where not true names places there jobs where the babies come from how they killed them how they bled them even the shoes the special shoes made from baby skin the names of the people who made them where they was made im sorry but this is all truth did you ever hear any of them pause when giving answers and say erm while they where trying to remember the story they where told to say no they opened the taps and the truth poured out

  • Concerned parent.

    The writer of this article should be ashamed. Not only have the children finally found the courage to speak out about this horrific abuse, but other parents who are not involved have come forward with evidence from their own children and one mother was asked to join the cult and threatened when she refused. Disbelieving the victims of abuse helps the abusers to continue!

    • Keelan Balderson

      “Not only have the children finally found the courage to speak out about this horrific abuse,” sustained at the hands of Abraham Christie.

  • John

    DO NOT ENTERTAIN THIS SITE AS ADMIN CENSOR YOUR POSTS!

  • Owen

    The kids retracted their statement to the police. The police video is circulating on the net. How did that get on the net? Doctor testimonies said the kids have definitely experienced abuse so why would this author say “may have” instead? Is it because the author has done no research or is just misleading on purpose?

    • Keelan Balderson

      Sabine / the Mother leaked all of this stuff on the net. At the time her legal representation would have been given a copy as the children had not yet been removed from her custody.

      No the doctor reports did NOT say they definitely experienced abuse. it is YOU who have not researched and are being misleading.

      Believers like to cling on to the very first medical reports from Dr. Hodes, because she wrote that the evdience supports allegations of sexual abuse. However even if there was medical evidence of sexual abuse, it still wouldn’t prove who the perpetrators were.

      However it’s disingenuous to focus on these initial reports because Hodes took her findings to a panel of colleagues to be peer reviewed. She then subsequently agreed that she had overstated the findings, and what was actually observed fell within “possible normal variant,” meaning the children were comparable to children who were not abused.

      It has since emerged that Draper was giving the children enemas for constipation, both of which can cause mild signs of damage, and therefore may be a factor in the findings.

      I won’t get graphic, but the one finding that did remain after the peer review was the presence of “RAD” in the girl. This however did not accompany any signs of damage, which you would expect with sexual abuse.

      When Dr. Hodes was asked about the enemas Draper had been giving the children, she conceded there could have been multiple possible causes for the RAD, not just sexual abuse.

      “It’s another possible cause of trauma,” she responded.

      So at this stage we’re dealing with “possible,” not provable.

      Therefore evidence of sexual abuse is not a forgone conclusion, and is not the “smoking gun” believers are attempting to spin it as.

      Hodes sought the opinions of her peers by herself and there is no evidence that she was pressured to revise her findings.

      So let’s think about this logically for a second. If a massive cult had been abusing these children every week for an extended period of time, you’d think the physical signs would be absolutely overwhelming. Not one possible sign, in one child, without other supporting signs, and which has also been observed in non-abused children.

      They should have been in constant pain, they should have been having nightmares, they should have been trying to stay off school in fear, and the evidence should be conclusive. It’s not!

      While it’s possible some kind of isolated incident of sexual abuse has occurred, the children no longer seem to claim this, and the only evidence of abuse of any kind points towards physical and emotional abuse from Abraham Christie and Ella Draper.

      • SennaStar .

        I would ask who are you and why are you so in defence of the system?

        You speak like a trained legal professional but are very clear that the children invented this story.

        Do you have any connection to the father or establishment?

        Who do you seek to protect?

        “While it’s possible some kind of isolated incident of sexual abuse has occurred, the children no longer seem to claim this”

        This is the speak of professionals that sadly decide the fate and futures of innocent children every day in the UK.

        Almost like you could have been a barrister representing the LA or Cafcass in this case.

        Who are you??

        • Jules

          He is a sensible and rational person who’s assessed the facts from the available information online, which is what I’ve done too. I have no legal training, don’t live in London and have no affiliation to anyone involved. Indeed, I’m one of the people who would like to see the Westminster cover-up investigated and I’d like to see justice done. But at the same time I don’t believe in witch-hunts based on lies and internet gossip. The truth IS out there but has so far been obscured by myths and nonsense.

  • Jules

    Thank you for a logical and sensible article. Common sense is in short supply thse days.